1 00:00:04,490 --> 00:00:02,899 question to ask unquote now is people 2 00:00:06,530 --> 00:00:04,500 who have studied the mystery airship 3 00:00:08,390 --> 00:00:06,540 question are aware some of these stories 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:08,400 are deeply suspect and sometimes they 5 00:00:12,169 --> 00:00:10,650 involve people who don't even exist they 6 00:00:14,509 --> 00:00:12,179 were just made up by somebody probably 7 00:00:16,910 --> 00:00:14,519 somebody in this paper office but I 8 00:00:20,060 --> 00:00:16,920 decided to investigate to find out if I 9 00:00:23,090 --> 00:00:20,070 could even establish that a JR lagoon a 10 00:00:26,300 --> 00:00:23,100 charlie lagoon and a rabbi a levee even 11 00:00:28,939 --> 00:00:26,310 existed and I ended up engaging in 12 00:00:32,330 --> 00:00:28,949 correspondence with the archivist in the 13 00:00:34,729 --> 00:00:32,340 Beaumont Public Library System and he 14 00:00:37,610 --> 00:00:34,739 provided me with with proof that the 15 00:00:39,229 --> 00:00:37,620 levee that the lagoons existed there 16 00:00:41,750 --> 00:00:39,239 mentioned in official records from the 17 00:00:44,420 --> 00:00:41,760 period including an indication that jr. 18 00:00:48,049 --> 00:00:44,430 lagoon died sometime between 1897 and 19 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:48,059 the turn of the century and his wife is 20 00:00:52,819 --> 00:00:49,610 listed in the night his widow is 21 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:52,829 identified in the 1900 Beaumont city 22 00:00:57,860 --> 00:00:54,690 directory now there's also no question 23 00:01:01,700 --> 00:00:57,870 that a rabbi a levee existed and he 24 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:01,710 served in Beaumont in 1897 Beaumont 25 00:01:08,390 --> 00:01:06,450 historian WT block has written about the 26 00:01:11,170 --> 00:01:08,400 city's small but thriving Jewish 27 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:11,180 community dating back to 1875 in 28 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:16,170 September 1895 temple and manual was 29 00:01:20,929 --> 00:01:18,090 established and according to block its 30 00:01:23,870 --> 00:01:20,939 members immediately engaged dr. Aaron 31 00:01:26,390 --> 00:01:23,880 Levie as the city's first resident rabbi 32 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:26,400 unquote block notes that during a 33 00:01:31,490 --> 00:01:29,490 six-year stand in Beaumont quoting rabbi 34 00:01:33,950 --> 00:01:31,500 levy as the voice of the congregation 35 00:01:36,590 --> 00:01:33,960 plunged headlong into community affairs 36 00:01:38,270 --> 00:01:36,600 he won much acclaim now I found 37 00:01:39,890 --> 00:01:38,280 references to rabbi levy in the 38 00:01:43,370 --> 00:01:39,900 Galveston papers of the period for 39 00:01:45,649 --> 00:01:43,380 example this sentence rabbi levy has won 40 00:01:50,990 --> 00:01:45,659 many friends during a stay in Beaumont 41 00:01:54,139 --> 00:01:51,000 unquote in short levy does not look much 42 00:01:59,149 --> 00:01:54,149 like a hoaxer or a prankster or teller 43 00:02:02,300 --> 00:01:59,159 of tall tales and this suggests that not 44 00:02:05,959 --> 00:02:02,310 every account of an alleged encounter 45 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:05,969 with human-like airship crew was 46 00:02:10,550 --> 00:02:08,250 necessarily fiction now there's another 47 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:10,560 related story that I also investigated 48 00:02:13,530 --> 00:02:13,290 involving it appears in the press the 49 00:02:15,750 --> 00:02:13,540 pier 50 00:02:18,509 --> 00:02:15,760 involves a man named HC LaGrone of 51 00:02:21,599 --> 00:02:18,519 Deadwood Texas now there's no question 52 00:02:24,539 --> 00:02:21,609 that HC lagrone existed his father Adam 53 00:02:28,170 --> 00:02:24,549 legrande founded the tiny town that in 54 00:02:30,750 --> 00:02:28,180 1882 was named Deadwood and the younger 55 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:30,760 lagrone established a mill around which 56 00:02:34,740 --> 00:02:32,170 the settlement grew in eighteen eighty 57 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:34,750 five he was the town's first postmaster 58 00:02:41,220 --> 00:02:37,290 on the evening of April twenty-eighth 59 00:02:43,289 --> 00:02:41,230 1897 he allegedly had this experience 60 00:02:47,339 --> 00:02:43,299 reported in the Houston post two days 61 00:02:48,929 --> 00:02:47,349 later he heard a disturbance among his 62 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:48,939 horses and he went out to check on the 63 00:02:54,629 --> 00:02:52,450 cause and he saw this flying the strange 64 00:03:00,420 --> 00:02:54,639 flying object approaching from the 65 00:03:03,809 --> 00:03:00,430 southwest and it landed and this is what 66 00:03:05,819 --> 00:03:03,819 this is what he wrote I went directly to 67 00:03:08,190 --> 00:03:05,829 the place of landing and on arrival 68 00:03:11,610 --> 00:03:08,200 found the ship its crew was composed of 69 00:03:13,409 --> 00:03:11,620 five min three of whom entertain me 70 00:03:15,629 --> 00:03:13,419 while the other two took rubber bags and 71 00:03:17,969 --> 00:03:15,639 went for a supply of water at the well 72 00:03:19,920 --> 00:03:17,979 they informed me that this was one of 73 00:03:22,349 --> 00:03:19,930 five ships that have been traveling the 74 00:03:25,710 --> 00:03:22,359 country and that this individual ship 75 00:03:29,159 --> 00:03:25,720 was the same one as recently landed near 76 00:03:31,170 --> 00:03:29,169 Beaumont after having traveled pretty 77 00:03:33,089 --> 00:03:31,180 well around the Northwest they stated 78 00:03:35,939 --> 00:03:33,099 that the ships were put up in an 79 00:03:37,559 --> 00:03:35,949 interior town in Illinois they were 80 00:03:39,030 --> 00:03:37,569 rather reticent about giving out 81 00:03:41,580 --> 00:03:39,040 information since they had not yet 82 00:03:45,119 --> 00:03:41,590 secured everything by patent but stated 83 00:03:47,580 --> 00:03:45,129 they would soon be secure in this now 84 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:47,590 there were no airship ologist in 1897 to 85 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:48,970 interview these witnesses firsthand 86 00:03:53,460 --> 00:03:51,970 investigate the cases but to the extent 87 00:03:56,610 --> 00:03:53,470 that we can read the evidence from 88 00:03:58,649 --> 00:03:56,620 limitative suggestive evidence it's 89 00:04:01,140 --> 00:03:58,659 surely reasonable to infer that these 90 00:04:03,839 --> 00:04:01,150 were credible informants telling 91 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:03,849 incredible stories in other words pretty 92 00:04:09,629 --> 00:04:07,090 much like many many millions of people 93 00:04:13,110 --> 00:04:09,639 over the centuries it appears to be 94 00:04:15,030 --> 00:04:13,120 possible to encounter things that don't 95 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:15,040 exist in any conventional understanding 96 00:04:20,550 --> 00:04:17,370 of the verb I call these things 97 00:04:22,409 --> 00:04:20,560 experience anomalies or the secondary 98 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:22,419 phenomenon is opposed to the core 99 00:04:25,719 --> 00:04:23,210 phenomenon 100 00:04:28,710 --> 00:04:25,729 they typically have a parasitic or even 101 00:04:32,230 --> 00:04:28,720 parody like relationship to a core 102 00:04:34,450 --> 00:04:32,240 anomalous event the anomalous event 103 00:04:36,610 --> 00:04:34,460 takes place in the world and can be 104 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:36,620 empirically demonstrated or potentially 105 00:04:43,390 --> 00:04:40,810 demonstrated it's experiential correlate 106 00:04:47,129 --> 00:04:43,400 borrows its imagery from the anomalous 107 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:47,139 event but is otherwise unrelated to it 108 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:49,370 experience anomalies are open-ended 109 00:04:54,550 --> 00:04:52,610 almost anything can be seen though 110 00:04:57,550 --> 00:04:54,560 cultural traditions and expectations 111 00:05:02,080 --> 00:04:57,560 play a large in some ways determining 112 00:05:04,390 --> 00:05:02,090 role in shaping their particular content 113 00:05:06,790 --> 00:05:04,400 in experienced individuals perceive 114 00:05:09,550 --> 00:05:06,800 supernatural or at least unlikely 115 00:05:12,670 --> 00:05:09,560 entities like fairies murr beings angels 116 00:05:15,610 --> 00:05:12,680 the Virgin Mary gods monsters space 117 00:05:17,620 --> 00:05:15,620 people and phantom airship crews these 118 00:05:20,620 --> 00:05:17,630 are not hallucinations as hallucinations 119 00:05:22,540 --> 00:05:20,630 are ordinarily understood these 120 00:05:25,420 --> 00:05:22,550 encounters which sometimes occur 121 00:05:27,899 --> 00:05:25,430 collectively are truly profoundly 122 00:05:32,290 --> 00:05:27,909 mysterious and their cause is unknown 123 00:05:34,390 --> 00:05:32,300 yet to all available evidence sincere 124 00:05:37,629 --> 00:05:34,400 witnesses and good viewing conditions 125 00:05:40,990 --> 00:05:37,639 that assure us of the anomalous pneus of 126 00:05:42,700 --> 00:05:41,000 the observation don't translate into 127 00:05:46,029 --> 00:05:42,710 anything that transcends memory in 128 00:05:47,830 --> 00:05:46,039 testimony we barely have a vocabulary to 129 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:47,840 talk about these things the closest we 130 00:05:53,230 --> 00:05:50,570 get to it is visionary experience and 131 00:05:54,850 --> 00:05:53,240 visionary experiences used as if it's an 132 00:05:58,300 --> 00:05:54,860 explanation when in fact it's only a 133 00:06:01,390 --> 00:05:58,310 description the British ufologist Ginny 134 00:06:03,939 --> 00:06:01,400 Randall's calls this the oz factor 135 00:06:06,969 --> 00:06:03,949 defining it as the sensation sometimes 136 00:06:09,430 --> 00:06:06,979 reported by UFO witnesses of quote being 137 00:06:12,730 --> 00:06:09,440 transported temporarily from our world 138 00:06:15,700 --> 00:06:12,740 into another were where reality is but 139 00:06:18,100 --> 00:06:15,710 slightly different unquote now protein 140 00:06:19,779 --> 00:06:18,110 in nature experience anomalies are 141 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:19,789 variable changing over time and 142 00:06:27,219 --> 00:06:23,690 geography in transitional historical and 143 00:06:30,310 --> 00:06:27,229 cultural periods they may fuse motifs in 144 00:06:33,070 --> 00:06:30,320 curious ways there's no one dramatic in 145 00:06:35,709 --> 00:06:33,080 instance of that I found in a 19-7 146 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:35,719 Tennessee newspaper and involved as 147 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:37,050 falsely took place in June 148 00:06:42,050 --> 00:06:39,210 19 7 involves a hunter named Walter 149 00:06:43,969 --> 00:06:42,060 Stevenson Stevenson was resting from 150 00:06:47,059 --> 00:06:43,979 haunt out in a rural area sitting on a 151 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:47,069 log and he noticed something in the in 152 00:06:51,170 --> 00:06:48,690 the eastern sky and first he thought it 153 00:06:54,439 --> 00:06:51,180 was a was a kite it was approaching him 154 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:54,449 as it got closer it big it revealed 155 00:06:59,330 --> 00:06:56,250 itself to be as the press account calls 156 00:07:01,670 --> 00:06:59,340 it a huge balloon of a pattern he had 157 00:07:08,990 --> 00:07:01,680 never in his life before seen unquote 158 00:07:12,830 --> 00:07:09,000 and beautiful eerie music was emanating 159 00:07:15,589 --> 00:07:12,840 from this object it landed and strange 160 00:07:19,309 --> 00:07:15,599 people with their faces covered stepped 161 00:07:21,020 --> 00:07:19,319 out of the car and as the paper put at 162 00:07:23,059 --> 00:07:21,030 the car was closely curtain with a 163 00:07:26,089 --> 00:07:23,069 substance that fairly glistened unquote 164 00:07:28,580 --> 00:07:26,099 they walked to a nearby spring and knelt 165 00:07:30,740 --> 00:07:28,590 down as if in worship Stephenson 166 00:07:33,050 --> 00:07:30,750 approached them after their worship 167 00:07:34,909 --> 00:07:33,060 ritual was over and he asked them who 168 00:07:37,850 --> 00:07:34,919 they were and one of the crew members 169 00:07:40,909 --> 00:07:37,860 pulled the veil off the face revealing 170 00:07:43,309 --> 00:07:40,919 the face of a lady a benign face of a 171 00:07:47,570 --> 00:07:43,319 lady he called it and she asked him in 172 00:07:50,269 --> 00:07:47,580 German if he had prayed and the press 173 00:07:52,820 --> 00:07:50,279 account goes on quoting instantly all 174 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:52,830 were aboard the airship rose and was 175 00:07:57,769 --> 00:07:55,050 gone in a westerly direction mr. 176 00:08:00,260 --> 00:07:57,779 Stevenson states that the incident left 177 00:08:02,839 --> 00:08:00,270 an impression upon him that he can never 178 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:02,849 forget and while he knows that it was 179 00:08:08,300 --> 00:08:06,330 some human invention it looked and the 180 00:08:11,689 --> 00:08:08,310 music sounded more like that of angels 181 00:08:13,580 --> 00:08:11,699 than of mortals unquote now if 182 00:08:17,269 --> 00:08:13,590 experienced anomalies adapt themselves 183 00:08:20,180 --> 00:08:17,279 to a cultures idea of supernatural or 184 00:08:23,149 --> 00:08:20,190 otherwise fantastic sightings this one 185 00:08:25,430 --> 00:08:23,159 conjures up divine entities angels and 186 00:08:28,879 --> 00:08:25,440 even by one reading the Blessed Virgin 187 00:08:31,269 --> 00:08:28,889 Mary secret airship pilots and looking 188 00:08:35,089 --> 00:08:31,279 forward to UFOs in the modern sense 189 00:08:38,149 --> 00:08:35,099 notions of extraordinary encounters on 190 00:08:40,069 --> 00:08:38,159 the other hand in some instances may 191 00:08:42,709 --> 00:08:40,079 also have as their inspiration the 192 00:08:45,680 --> 00:08:42,719 source of real this world encounters 193 00:08:48,050 --> 00:08:45,690 whose contents are sufficiently exotic 194 00:08:50,630 --> 00:08:48,060 and enigmatic estuve border on the 195 00:08:52,970 --> 00:08:50,640 fantastical no 196 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:52,980 ball lightning is poorly understood but 197 00:08:59,420 --> 00:08:55,650 very few people dispute its existence 198 00:09:03,010 --> 00:08:59,430 anymore but it has its correlates in the 199 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:03,020 liminal zone of experience anomaly 200 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:05,730 sociologist james mclennan has noted 201 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:08,730 that quoting and effort and excuse me an 202 00:09:11,870 --> 00:09:10,170 effect that occurred during an 203 00:09:14,450 --> 00:09:11,880 electrical storm would be termed ball 204 00:09:16,700 --> 00:09:14,460 lightning other cases with the exact 205 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:16,710 same appearance but occurring in other 206 00:09:21,620 --> 00:09:19,250 circumstances would be called ufos 207 00:09:25,130 --> 00:09:21,630 psychic lights or will of the wisps 208 00:09:27,890 --> 00:09:25,140 unquote now in such context balls of 209 00:09:30,110 --> 00:09:27,900 light may act purposefully as if endowed 210 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:30,120 with intelligence and able to perform 211 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:32,850 fantastic feats such as the opening of 212 00:09:36,590 --> 00:09:34,890 and passing through a locked window 213 00:09:39,260 --> 00:09:36,600 according to one of McClellan's 214 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:39,270 informants now where do we go from here 215 00:09:44,540 --> 00:09:42,810 I think what's required is a radically 216 00:09:47,030 --> 00:09:44,550 objective approach that respects the 217 00:09:48,620 --> 00:09:47,040 testimony that deserves respect in other 218 00:09:51,380 --> 00:09:48,630 words some people who are saying 219 00:09:54,380 --> 00:09:51,390 insincere even when it speaks of 220 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:54,390 incredible things this testimony may or